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     Maybe the fedupfeds site could have a feelgood spot. . . kind of a chicken soup for the soul place. . . to lift us up when we get low.
     -- Erin
  
     (Good idea; let's have suggestions. But  from what we've seen on the list, the info and support from many others is the most help to those lost in FECALand -- to borrow Barb's term ) 
     -- webmaster
  
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     While we're busy trying to change the system and reform the laws, and make the world a better place to live for everybody, we can also DO THOSE THINGS, POSSIBLE RIGHT NOW, SUCH AS: email our district OWCP Office, Check out our Physician's Medical Credentials, Read every area and link of FedUpFeds  Website, ask questions among our co-workers and fellow list members, keep an open mind, not martyr ourselves by "refusing our employers,"     . . . There is enough useful information on this list, even with a "flawed system" and "corrupt employers," that an injured federal employee can hope to AVOID MOST or MANY of the PITFALLS in becoming injured at work. There is no reason that anyone should suffer more,
once they do the things I previously suggested, that are free, at no cost, and given from the heart. Much of this information came from needless pain and suffering and should be given the consideration it is due for this reason. There is more GOOD STUFF AVAILABLE HERE AT AN AFFORDABLE PRICE THAN ANYWHERE ELSE AN INJURED FEDERAL EMPLOYEE CAN GO. . .
EITHER WAY:.........I TOLD YOU SO!!
    -- DirtyDave
    dkirtley@mmcable.com

     (Note from webmaster -- "FREE" is about as "affordable" as it gets)
   
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    It was a doc's fraud that sent me spinning and  terminated.  5 minutes of non-examination and a 15 page report-paid $1500 plus.  He was obviously used over and over again because he was willing to sell himself for OWCP's benefit-get rid of me.  OWCP was so assured of this doc's talents they sent me to him again after 2nd injury. . . A CE called me and told me that I was going to be sent "back" to Dr. Benjamin Cox and would be terminated AGAIN. Pretty sure of the good ole doc, right?!
. . . But who really IS liable here?  OWCP chose to sift thru his OPINION and pick the weight they needed to terminate. THEY were ultimately responsible.  He was under their umbrella.  In a real world setting, OWCP would be sued . . . His and others' continual adverse opinions should be put out there for a medical board, court, licensing agency to investigate and punish.  Their licenses should be yanked and burned. HOWEVER, this is a  concentrated effort that would require so much money, lawyers just won't take it- malpractice insurance- that good ole OPINION doctrine- I think everyone is saying concentrate on the umbrella!!
     --TIFF
   
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      Okay guys, we're rolling.....Congressman Bilirakis's office in Land O Lakes at 10:00 am on Monday and Congressman Davis's office in Tampa at 2:00 pm on Monday.   We are addressing problems with the USPS and OWCP so if anyone else wants to come with us - like Nike says - Just Do It.
     . . .So far there are three of us, all with well documented and serious problems.  If there is anyone who can't go but would like us to submit a statement regarding their problems it would be helpful.  Our strength is going to be in showing repeated problems of the same nature.  We don't want to look like disgruntled people but rather as the a representation of many people who have suffered at the hands of Jacksonville OWCP and the USPS. . .
     I will take a copy of the survey results.
     --Darlene
   
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       . . . just say I don't trust anyone including unions to know what injured workers need, and then to do it and make it right -- except injured workers themselves.  That's YOU.  I want them to listen to YOU and get behind YOU.  For all the reasons you give ;-)
     --Paul,  FedupFeds webmaster
   
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     Has anyone had problems with Comp. sending you to doctors who are not certified to evaluate your condition. This was done to me by the Federal Employees Worker's Comp office in Cleveland, Oh. My own, certified, doctor tried to look up this guy's credentials for evaluating my illness and he didn't have any. This doctor didn't even appear to have any patients. He evaluates lots of cases for Comp. I think that he helps them deny the cases so he can keep their business. When he tested me, it was pretty clear that he really didn't know what he was doing. He left out a lot of tests. He even did some wrong. (I had done them before) But this was Comp's "expert"
     To me, when I look at the whole picture, I would say the Cleveland Worker's Comp. office is running some kind of rackett. They need the denials because thats what they are rated by, how many claims they deny. The doctor depends on their business, so he'll find a way to deny. Even if it means fudging.
     -- Bob
   
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      . . . fear of retribution in contacting congress is the least of your problems. If OWCP has you in its sights, you're already there. They will do anything to achieve their objectives, once set, and that includes ignoring law, rule, regulation, policy, and good management practice. ECAB can and will back them up, even if they have to lie to do it. However, if your congressional delegation is alive, that will be amazing.
     . . .anger won't get you anywhere except further from your family members and anyone else who might be supportive. If it helps, you're not alone. OWCP's action is not personal to you. You're in a large group of similarly attacked people. People from whom the government of the United States has wrongfully stolen what by law is rightfully ours. If it helps there's life after disability. You may not be able to work, but there are things you can do. If it helps there's life after poverty. The key is keeping yourself together and being able to find joy in life--despite the problems. The one thing that OWCP cannot take from you--nor anyone else for that matter is your ability to find joy in life--unless you permit it. Give them that and you lose. Keep that and you ultimately win. After all that's what it's all about.

     --Bonnye
   
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     The bad thing about pain, is that it makes you very easily depressed . . . Chronic pain and depression are like "married to each other". They go hand in hand. . . In this list we are told to research things. I encourage others to research depression meds and chronic pain. . . For whatever it takes, we have to be informed.
     . . . For a long time I was really bitter about my injury, but then I realized it was only hurting me and my family. I had to choose to make the most out of my injury, find things in my life that I could do, and focus on those. For the longest time I refused to think of my injury as permanent. I just wasn't going to accept it. But thinking like that held back my emotional healing. . .  I'm much more sensitive to the plight of others, which I never was before. . .  It took a long time for me to say openly, that I'm partially disabled, I'm handicapped, I have a handicapped parking permit, and I walk with a cane. But I don't look on the outward trappings anymore, its whats inside that counts.
     --Geva
   
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. . . I have tried to calling other spinal specialists in the area, but they will not accept OWCP cases. (I wonder why). I know that if I don't see a specialist, I will never have my case accepted by OWCP.  I'm melting............
what a world........what a world......what a world......
    --Irene
     pirs1775@juno.com
   
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     Left home when the May 3rd tornado took it out.  Quit the PO, got a job with the state University and working on a Doctorate.  They don't seem to mind my disability...and the PO was trying to remove me because I couldn't do anything!   . . . I understand that you are angry, frustrated, hurt, in pain, and probably over your head in debt with medical bills. I, too, have been there . . . .
     Along the way, I learned that being bitter made me old and depressed.  I gave it up and let go so that I could move on with my life.  The PO may have won the financial battle, I have won freedom and peace of mind.  The PO lost a good employee and we are both happy.
     --Vicki
  
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     I am sick and tired of the way OWCP has treated my husband over the years.  The last straw was a recent ordered medical exam, where the physician skillfully neglected to address the effects of the opiate agonist drugs my husband has to take daily for relief. . . This physician also did not write any restriction whatsoever in a "return to work" for my husband. 
     I also read where the Director of the OWCP (or some other) said that the first agency consideration is "returning employees to work" and second patient care and welfare.  No wonder the OWCP is out to get you all back to work no matter what the cost!   With a directive like that, it is no wonder what is going on.  Even so, what they (OWCP) are doing is wrong, and I will not allow them to do my husband in.  If he gets locked up for driving all over the road, are they going to get him out of jail?   Will the expunge his driving record so he can keep working?  Suppose he hurts someone, will they take care of a lawsuit against us?
. . . I will not allow my husband to hurt himself or someone else because an uncaring Government Agency with a spurious agenda says so.
     --Diane
   
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     . . . I have used this list for a lot of questions and have always benefited from the advice given,  just wanted to thank everyone for their help in these difficult times.  You all are a blessing and I thank you very much.
     --Wildcatbob
   
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     In 1997 I was at my lowest point.  After all the years of fighting the AF/Government and getting so much abuse and suffering & so much trauma from their abuse, I was ignoring my family, friends and everything else.  Because of my disabilities caused at work I was and still am unable to throw off the stress in the way I always have, i.e. heavy duty sports, dancing, gardening, housework, and  artwork, as well as help anyone else who needed me.  I really did not know what stress was, and I had become a virtual recluse.  I did not leave my house; a lot of times I did not even get dressed, just stared at the TV not even watching it.  My writing had gone by the wayside too, and I cried all the time because I was so angry and came to the conclusion I would never beat the AF/government . . . In December of 1997 I was referred by a psychologist who's practice consists of all government employees, to a psychologist who he said understood "us" government employees and the trauma that had been inflicted on us by our employer . . . I am not totally back to the person I used to be, or that my family both here and back in England, or my friends knew, but they all have heard and seen a great change back toward that person . . . believe me they will never beat me, nor will they beat you or any one of us that stand up for what is right, and for what we are entitled to as injured employees. I hope you can take comfort in this and know that one day you will be at the point I have reached now. Take good care of yourself. .
     --Lee
     YorksLass@aol.com
   
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